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February 24, 2010

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Postscript: Lose a granddaughter, a daughter, all respect, and now a house? (what else could possibly plague this family?)

by Andrea O'Connell

Postscript:

After sleeping on this topic overnight, I awake to this fact: I honestly cannot recall reading any factual basis from any source that the Anthony’s have profited from Caylee’s death.  I have read the columns and the opinions of so many who believe this is fact, but like Marinade Dave points out, until we have FACTS, let us not judge this too harshly.

Well, at least not yet.

As I alluded to in my earlier post, the mounting foreclosures impacting millions of Americans is FACT, and it is surely not surprising that given the FACT that both Cindy and George, who have not worked in over a year, are  struggling just like millions of Americans.

So, allow me to hold at bay my cynicism at their “sympathy ploy” as I can’t possibly know the truth here.  It is just the cynicism about the case that makes me crazy, but I have to be even-keeled here and wait until all the facts are out before passing judgment.

A FACT: The Anthony’s surely would not want to lose the home where they have such deep memories of both their daughter and granddaughter.

I think this is how I’d like to be treated if I were in the Anthony’s shoes.

Please read this post by Dave:

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/whered-the-millions-go/

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  1. lona1
    Feb 24 2010

    If you are that delinquent in making mortgage payments, why do you drive 2 cars? Pay 2 car ins. policies, purchase 2 car tags, service 2 cars from time to time? Would you not downsize to one vehicle and try to catch up on your payments? That alone is making me believe that this foreclosure is deliberate. It’s not that they need 2 vehicles to drive in different directions to work every morning. And if they have chosen to let their home go, it certainly is their business. But WE now wonder who will donate (again) to them to bail them out.

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    • Andrea
      Feb 24 2010

      Hi Lona, you know, you certainly do make a valid point. But, if the selling one car is not necessary at this point, perhaps they will if and when things get so bad. I know people who have downsized to no car in order to keep their home, but this isn’t feasible for all persons to do.

      Because I was so cynical about the Anthony’s in the past, and still am critical and cynical as to how they have acted, I honestly have trouble suspending my disbelief as to their deliberately wanting to foreclose on the only home Caylee knew.

      Although my first reaction when I read this story was to think, Rut-ro …….here we go again! Here’s yet another ploy by the Anthony’s. But, I don’t think this is the case, now that I have had the time to digest this.

      I think this is a consequence of the times we’re living in and the Anthony’s, both without jobs, are over their heads.

      Surely the value of their home has decreased – nearly all homes in Florida have. On a personal note, I will tell you that I also live in Florida and the value of my home has decreased by 100 percent, which should tell you about what is happening in this market.

      I do appreciate that you shared your thoughts here…. you do make valid points…. and …. LOL…we sure know now who wants to bail them out of debt… reportedly it’s none other than Padilla, the Bounty Hunter, attorney, and all around nice guy!

      The Anthony’s will not accept Padilla’s assistance… Although, I think it’s surely nice of him, the animosity the Anthony’s have for him seems to be preventing them from accepting his kind offer.

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  2. Mamason
    Feb 24 2010

    I have to agree Iona,

    I would first of all drop a car payment. I would rather have a car repo’d then a house. A very deliberate act. If George now says he will do anything to save his home…well, ja think you should have thought of that earlier???
    I personally think he made the comment “He will do anything” because they already have it in the plan and know exactly what they are going to do and it won’t sit right with the people.

    What’s going on with the Milstead’s, Conway and the Anthony’s going into foreclosure. It will all unfold…in time…in time.

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    • Andrea
      Feb 24 2010

      Hi Mamason! Thanks for your comments… like Lona, you make some valid points, too. My argument would be to ask if you are aware of the crisis in Florida with regards to home values and joblessness? I sure do think the Anthony’s have made mega mistakes since day one – they are their own worst enemies, surely, I just don’t think they would deliberately want to lose their home! At first I did think this was just another media stunt, but I don’t think so…. the home is sacred, the home is where the heart is (sorry if I’m waxing poetic….LOL!), and there’s just no way they’d kiss it goodbye.

      As for the Mistead’s, they seem to have faded off in the sunset. It has been reported that they have shady pasts with the law.

      Regardless… you are correct, this will all unfold in time….we’ll have to give it time, as you rightly point out.

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  3. Ideas
    Feb 24 2010

    Even if the Anthonys have not profited from being the grandparents of Caylee, there remains questions as to why they are in this financial demise. We are talking about two very intelligent people who have strong support in their church.

    I agree with Mamason and lona. We don’t have to be haters to ask pertinent questions. Are we supposed to just let every practical thought go by the wayside because these two cry foul about the media, and ask for sympathy?

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    • Andrea
      Feb 24 2010

      This is true, Ideas…

      We can express our opinions, too – and we do…. absolutely!

      The Anthony’s are such a mess, they have dug their own hole here with regards to their reactions from day one… their inability to keep a story straight, for one thing, is what infuriates most of us…

      I agree, I don’t think we have to wear the mantle of “haters” to state an opinion, you are absolutely right…

      The irony about Baez and the Anthony’s: they cry foul about the media whilst they use it and abuse it…

      but, one thing you mentioned, I don’t agree with. I don’t think the Anthony’s are very intelligent at all. I think they are very simple but “crafty” and “street smart” but not intelligent….

      Thank you so much for sharing your opinions here! I really appreciate it….

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  4. Boston
    Feb 24 2010

    I know first hand the emotional ramification of foreclosure. Although it hasn’t happened to me it did happen to a dear and life long friend. She said, “I’d rather get a diagnosis of cancer than go through this hell. At least there is hope for a cure”. With foreclosure you loose everything. It is a very serious issue and one most homeowners think long and hard about.

    I agree wholeheartedly that this situation is not a ploy for sympathy. Everyone who has heard and read about this case could not walk away feeling anything but sympathy. Sure, the Anthony’s have done and said things that were off the wall and beyond the pale but no one would want to see them or anyone else loose their home. Caylee and Casey memories reside in that home. How much can these folks take?

    I agree with Mamason, Iona and Ideas. What prevented them from not paying the bills? Get rid of one car. Neither one of them were working so there really was no need to have two. They are able bodied and should be out there looking for work. Cindy has a long productive work history.

    I think we will understand this sad tale once we know (if we ever will) about how Mr Jose and his team are getting paid.

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    • Andrea
      Feb 24 2010

      Hey again, Boston…

      Oh my, I know first-hand, too. I live in Florida…. I have seen evictions and it tears you up…. they evict people with babies when they can’t pay their mortgage, and it eats me up….just kills me to see that. People’s belongings all strewn out on the street. Homelessness has gone way up. Times are bad, people are desperate now.

      My home’s value fell 100 percent, as I mentioned earlier, and the only way that I will ever get out from under my home, which is now way over priced for the market, is to do what is called a “short-sale.” This means, if a buyer is found, they make an offer and the bank accepts far less than the home is worth. So, the buyer in a short-sale gets a great deal, the bank takes a loss, and the original home owner has lost their investment while ruining their credit….BUT, and this is a real “but” the homeowner who can find someone to “short sell” to, is much better off than he or she would be in a foreclosure situation, as you know.

      It’s really awful out there in terms of work…unemployment in the state of Florida is a whopping 11.8 percent. Source: State by State Unemployment Figures.

      And, what company in their right mind would hire Cindy or George??? Holy Cow! I wouldn’t want to hire them… too much media, too much trouble for business.

      And, boy, I sure agree with you that the HUGE question on the table is how in the devil is Casey paying for this??? I wonder if by not paying their mortgage they are funneling money to Baez?

      Oh god, how awfully depressing, Boston. I don’t particularly care one iota for the Anthony’s, but I just can’t help but feel sorry for them in this situation. A home is not a house, especially when it was a home last known by the little angel herself, Caylee Marie.

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  5. Boston
    Feb 24 2010

    IMO Casey Anthony has had a long history of putting out her greedy little paw and taking what she thinks she deserves. Can’t you hear her tell her mother, Mom, you wouldn’t have this kind of money unless Caylee were dead. Give me my fair share. I wouldn’t put anything past that rotten, stinking person.

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    • Andrea
      Feb 24 2010

      Hey Boston… LOL…you got it right there…. And remember the stories about the Anthony’s having trouble with paying their mortgage in the past? I seem to remember that Casey stole some money from Cindy – and it was money that Cindy needed to pay the mortgage. Do you remember that, too? I just thought of that this second.

      And, remember while Caylee went missing, Casey had concocted a whole long story about her parents getting a divorce and moving out of the home and she taking over the mortgage payments? Amy Huizenga told this in her interview with the police way back when.

      So, it seems to me that this is not the first time they have been in this predicament with the mortgage…. only, this time, Cindy is not working, which makes it all the more difficult.

      And, I seem to remember that the trouble with mortgage payments were also due to George’s gambling with money in one of those wacko internet schemes. Boy, he fell for an obvious scam…how he could fall for one of them, tells me he is a simple man, really.

      I get those emails all the time, you know the ones that say, in broken English, to wire such and such amount of money, and when the cash is received by the crooks, they promise a big reward, etc. etc?

      So, George is a simple man, so is Cindy a simple woman (mean though), and perhaps they are both greedy, but I truly can’t believe they want to lose the house they loved… I am sure they feel comforted by the memories of Caylee there. I know I would.

      All the best, my friend.

      Where’s Hilde?!!! I saw one of her posts today on one of the blogs, and it was as lovely as she is lovely… Hello out there Hilde!!!

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  6. auntdeedee
    Feb 24 2010

    Hi, Andrea!

    First of all, congrats on getting your degree! :mrgreen:

    At Dave’s, a commentor named Shade was talking about re-modification for homeowners facing foreclosure. There are qualifications, though. Perhaps this is a strategic move on the Anthony’s part to get lowered mortgage payments. It is a bit of a gamble to do however.

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    • Andrea
      Feb 25 2010

      awwww, thanks Aunt deedee! I am sure glad it’s over…

      Yup, the loan modification could work, but not always, from what I understand…. There’s the Obama plan that helps the little guy get through the mess, but the homeowner still has to qualify (have to have fairly good credit, and probably have a job, too).

      It could be the Anthony’s are SOL in terms of government intervention; and I think I read in the media last night that it’s doubtful they would qualify given their poor credit history, starting with their wicked daughter who robbed them blind.

      Anyway… thanks again for being here!

      Andrea

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  7. Linda
    Feb 25 2010

    auntdeedee, I agree with what Shade had to say…Conway is playing the same game……. I too felt a little bad for them when I first read about it….Conway also knows how to beat the foreclosure ……..he is a lawyer and knows all the rules…….After watching these people for the last yr an half…..THEY are NOT going to change,,,,,,it is all about THEM…….and another chance to screw the State of Florida……think about it…….they haven’t done one thing to even try to save their home…….Don’t kid yourself…….and don’t under estimate Miss Cindy……she still THINKS she is smarter than everyone else………..TRUST ME …..if theres any flies on her……..they’re all dead………. good blog Andrea,,,

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    • Andrea
      Feb 26 2010

      Thanks, Linda! LOL… methinks the Anthony’s would be paying their bills if you were their lawyer! Yay for you!

      However, they are still not working….how can they pay for anything if they are not working? Remember when Lee moved back in with them to take over the mortgage? I wonder if he lost his job, too. Could be. We don’t hear too much about Lee – and that’s a good thing…

      thanks again, Linda!

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  8. auntdeedee
    Feb 25 2010

    I agree, Linda. It’s hard to have compassion for the Anthonys when their behavior has been very questionable. One needs to have discernment with meting out compassion or else get ripped off. One could end up helping the devil in his conniving schemes.

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  9. lona1
    Feb 25 2010

    this comment is from a person that lives around the corner there,

    News Flash People. The Anthony’s Do not live in that house on Hope Spring. They live in the next neighborhood over on Flatwood Lane. I think the house in rented. So what ever money was not paid on their mortgage for the Hopespring house is now going towards their new house on Flatwood Lane. I can’t believe they are trying to make it look like they are in dire straits.

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    • weezie
      Mar 12 2010

      click on search and look at #2. If anyone has extra money hanging around and wants to really find out the dirt, here’s our chance.

      http://www.intelius.com/search-name.php?ReportType=1&

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      • Andrea
        Mar 12 2010

        Hey Thanks, Weezie… thanks for sharing that site…. I have heard of that company…. I don’t know how much it costs to do a search, though. I’ll see if there’s a way to access public records in Orlando. In the Florida county where I live, the public may search the records for free…. but it’s only arrest records and property records.

        If I find anything out, I’ll do a post! 🙂
        Andrea

      • Andrea
        Mar 12 2010

        PS Weezie… I had to rescue your post out of my spam filter…. that’s why it didn’t appear right away… The spam filter thought your post was spam as a result of it detecting the URL for Intellius. (Most spammers include URLS to promote their products, but sometimes the filter also stops legit posts like yours….

        Anyway, that’s why it didn’t post immediately. 🙂

        Have a good weekend!

        Andrea

    • Andrea
      Mar 12 2010

      Hey Lona1….Gosh, you must forgive me, but I am only just now reading your post…. Is this true, are they not in their home??? You wrote this on the 25th of February, so maybe that was the story on that day!! LOL… things in this case can take some mighty big twists and turns!

      Let us know if you hear any other news, Lona1… 🙂

      thanks
      andrea

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  10. Boston
    Feb 25 2010

    Andrea-If you can hold on and make the payments things will turn around. Some financial analyst say it will take 2-3 years. It is just awful but worth a little heartache and sacrifice now. Dave Ramsey says that it’s not a bad idea to sell stuff you don’t need. I know how dopey that sounds but selling things and putting away a little rainy day fund can give you a peace of mind.

    I agree that the Anthony’s had financial difficulties and they did, as you say, originate with George and Casey. Cindy did try to “fix” the problem and almost lost her 401 account as a result. In repairing the damage she incurred a fairly large tax burden on top of everything. That woman, no matter what we might think of her, has had her hardships. I often wondered what Casey did with the reportedly 45K she stole while living at home. How did Dianne Fanning come up with that figure?

    I do not know what is going on with the “foreclosure” but if it is not posted in the Orlando Sentinel it is probably a bogus story.

    Iona1-do you have any details about where you read that they were simply moving away from the neighborhood?

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    • Andrea
      Feb 26 2010

      yup, i am trying to hang on tight…it’s tough though because my place is only three years old and it is way beyond the pale in terms of value and market reality. In some parts of Florida, especially in south Florida where i am, it may take five to ten years for the market to come back.

      I am completely upside down, just like a lot of folks. And I am mortgaged to the max …. but, it could be worse, and I will hang in there… 🙂

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  11. Mamason
    Feb 25 2010

    Hi Andrea and all…

    I don’t think C & G intend/intended to lose their home. I think it’s a ploy. Maybe not for the “sympathy ploy” but a ploy all the same.

    As Blink says:
    These people are not broke by a longshot.
    ************************************

    As Linda says..Conway is an attorney and knows the ropes. They have been following the “foreclosure” and knew exactly when to step in or up or around..lol.
    I do believe it’s sad when foreclosure falls upon honest, upstanding family’s that have truly fallen upon bad times. Very sad. The Anthony’s do not fall under this category..Imo.

    Like your site Andrea.

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    • Andrea
      Feb 26 2010

      awww…. thank you so much! I am thrilled that you’re visiting…your comments are so appreciated, very valid and informative!

      🙂

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  12. Mamason
    Feb 25 2010

    Boston, You may have got the answer from another site…lona may have read about the Anthony’s not living in the Hopespring house from a new’s site (can’t remember which) A blogger said they lived in the neighborhood and the Anthony’s were now living in another house..maybe paying rent.
    The blogger said they were going to inform the news station. Don’t know how true.

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  13. Boston
    Feb 25 2010

    Mamson-I don’t think I got the answer from another site. Is the answer at another site? I am almost dizzy posting on something that might be a bogus story. How did so many news outlets go with this story if there was not a Notice of Foreclosure published in one of the newspapers?

    I’ll share something strange. When Iona1 said that the Anthony’s moved out and possibly to another house in the subdivision I googled something like “Public Notice of Foreclosure on Anthony residence”-something like that.
    Well low and behold doesn’t a google earth picture show up and a fairly good description of the home, potential sale price, dimensions of home seemed okay to me. All in all I was interested in reading about it. No mention of schools or anything but one could call and learn more, etc.

    I sat back in my chair and was thinking about what I had read and how confused I had been and while looking at my monitor I see this above teh Google earth picture:

    Anthony, Fl

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  14. Boston
    Feb 25 2010

    Go figure.

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  15. Mamason
    Feb 25 2010

    Boston,

    lol. I think it’s time to quit googling!

    Let me go find where that blogger (neighbor) is.

    Be back.

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  16. Mamason
    Feb 25 2010

    Boston,

    Google (lol) wesh news. Under “nthonys Could Lose Caylee’s Only Home”

    They are still talking about it with a neighbor.

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  17. Mamason
    Feb 25 2010

    Testing

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  18. Boston
    Feb 25 2010

    Iona1-Would you go to Kreuzer 33 and write a little bit about “what you know and when you knew it”-I live and die by Watergate euphanisims….

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  19. Boston
    Feb 25 2010

    Mamason-I shook my head and thought where the hell is the vacuum!

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  20. Mamason
    Feb 25 2010

    That’s when you know your dizzy! When you go to grab the vacuum! Should have grabbed the Windex to clean the monitor! lol

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  21. Andrea
    Feb 25 2010

    LOL!! I love it….. 🙂

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  22. Mamason
    Feb 25 2010

    Hi Andrea!!! Having a good day I hope. Boston cracks me up!

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    • Andrea
      Feb 25 2010

      Hey Mamason! Yup my day is perfect!! Hope yours is too!

      PS… It’s brrrrr cold here today…. in 50’s with a whipping wind…. I love it..!

      Andrea

      Sent from my iPhone

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    • Andrea
      Feb 25 2010

      Aaaand Boston cracks me up toooooo! She’s my bud!

      Sent from my iPhone

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  23. Andrea
    Feb 25 2010

    Helloooo all! Gosh, I am so thrilled that you’re here!

    And, you know what? LOL! This thought just hit me…duh…. but, if you ever wanted to chat “live” you could go on the page here on this blog – (the tab called “chatroll”) – and chat all you want!

    Maybe one of these days we could schedule a live chat with each other ….that would be loads of fun….

    If you want to use it…it’s all yours…I could make the archives public…..so you’ll see a record of the chat….. Or, I’ll make you administrators of the chat, if you’re interested in using it… who knows, this might be fun!

    I am so looking forward to relaxing tonight and reading and learning about the case from you!

    Andrea

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  24. Boston
    Feb 25 2010

    The windex. Yes, I needed that too! Here I was sitting reading everything about the Anthony home and thinking wow, 2100SF and thought to myself that the house didn;t look that big on TV…..when I ever saw the address-ANTHONY,Fl I thought it was just about time to do something productive.

    While I was doing the rugs and cleaning out the kitty litter boxes I was laughing outloud. My sister poked her head around the corner and said, “Want to share what struck you so funny?” and I said, “Maybe not today.”

    A couple of hours later she starts, without an explanation, her theory of who the “mystery” witness could be. I let her go on and on….I welcomed the break.

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    • Andrea
      Feb 26 2010

      That is just so bizarre that you saw “Anthony, FL”. LOL… I bet because so many people have googled that vicinity, they began to dub it Anthony, FL to make it easier for folks to find.. but, my that’s weird, too..LOL

      it is going to be wild to find out what the prosecutors are holding back… it has to be really big, it has got to be really incriminating, like maybe the they found Caylee’s father….

      Or, maybe Lee Anthony came clean with what he knows, or Dominic Casey’s story changed……

      interesting!

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  25. Boston
    Feb 26 2010

    Andrea-If I can get that site back I will post the link. Get this. There really is a place called, ANTHONY, FL. Just Google (Mamason is probably reading this and saying to herself, Boston must be addicted to Google!!) Anthony, Fl.

    Of course I googled something else like, “Foreclosure Notice on Anthony Residence”-dang, I really can’t remember what I typed but it had to be something like that. BBL with something sensible.

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    • Andrea
      Feb 26 2010

      LOL!!! Too funny!!

      Sent from my iPhone

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  26. Boston
    Feb 26 2010

    Andrea-This is one heck of a link if it doesn’t work-it won’t matter. Her’s hoping you and Mamason get a laugh.

    http://realestate.yahoo.com/Florida/Anthony/ne-27th-ter:d2c42a68bffb4a9f25867e86920d4ac

    Hope it works.

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  27. Mamason
    Feb 26 2010

    Yes I am laughing! I’m a google addict myself! How else am I going to find out things to share. My friends dare ask me a question..cuz my fav line is “Google it”. lol

    I knew there was an Anthony, Fl and probably the reason I bout fell out of my chair laughing getting a visual of your reaction Boston when you seen it (I’m still laughing)

    You know Boston….I won’t let you forget that one! lol.

    By the way…Me thinks Dominic is the key here. He’s making Cindy’s life pretty miserable about now and theres really nothing she can do or say about it. Imagine that. She is pretty used to being able to finagle situations to her liking…But guess what? She has no control over this one. Stuck like Chuck. (Wished I had a way with words..but I don’t) lol.

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    • Andrea
      Feb 28 2010

      Mamason! My goodness, you sure do have a way with words…yes, you do!

      Methinks you may be right about Dominic, too…. I also have this idea that the new evidence that’s under lock and key for 30 days, could possibly have some relation to the father of Caylee… LOL… I’m so anxious to know! I wonder if they will be any “leaks”… hmmm….we’ll all have to keep our proverbial gumshoe ears to the ground..

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  28. Boston
    Feb 27 2010

    Mamason-I think it would have to be one of the following:
    1. It could be a Category B Witness-someone who is not already deposed . Cat B witnesses can only be deposed with the approval of the court. I do not know for the life of me why I think that but it had to be something I read on a recent Motion. okay.
    It would fit into this scenario for delay and it would also make us crazy with anticipation because for all intents and purposes we wouldn;t have been introduced to this witness in the past.
    OR
    2. The only real WOW factor in this case relative to witnesses is Roy Kronk. Did his information come from a possible Category B Witness? More likely than not.

    A Cat B Witness could be anyone that the DA thinks could need protection (ruining their reputation, harm etc) or someone who might be employed in the LE community like a custodian of the evidence, a jailer, van drivers etc. There are also expert witnesses not aligned with the case who are not generally deposed but speak to the acceptable knowledge base in terms of the forensic and scientific evidence. I looked it up and gave links to this before…I have enough info to screw the entire explanation up-if you get my drift.

    Could it be someone in the jail who heard something and passed it on to Mr Kronk? At the end of the day though, Judge Strickland wants to keep pretrial as “sterile” as he can. He wants no mistakes and it is his job to see that there really is “order in the court”. I wouldn’t think he wants too many issues for the appeal stage.

    Dominic could be a viable candidate for the WOW factor because he tangled himself up with both Cindy and Jose (imagine my kitty with a ball of yarn for a couple of hours).
    By the time he gets on the stand he will be an ordained minister or a practicing physician and the whole thing will be moot!

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  29. Jon
    Mar 3 2010

    Whenever I think about this whole situation; George not being a able to get a job because potential employers are afraid of the publicity he will bring; them perhaps losing the house, already losing Caylee etc., etc., etc., I can only think it goes back to one person – Casey. Instead of trying to cover up for her, they should be admitting what she did and owning up to their responsibility for some at least some of her behavior. I have a feeling if they were to do this, they might be able to bring some closure to this whole mess and move on, but why do I think that will never happen……

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    • Andrea
      Mar 3 2010

      Hey Jon,

      I agree with you; George and Cindy are their own worst enemies as a result of their refusal to keep quiet and say “no comment”.

      Had they quietly supported their daughter, mourned their grandchild in private, they’d not be in the place they are today. Had they only kept to themselves, people would have some sympathy for them today. It is their Achilles Heel: their weakness is the glare of the spotlight and not letting things go.

      Gosh, they had a lot of compassion at the outset, remember? But I think they actually believed they could run the investigation better than LE and that’s exactly what they tried to do.

      Lee Anthony prided himself on being a detective of the first order until he began to run in a direction that was contrary to LE’s side, remember? LE just dropped him like a hot potato…. I can’t remember now what it was that created the rift between he and the detectives…but, I believe it was something having to do with the bond hearing and “telling” LE what to expect. That was part of Lee’s trouble, too, he wanted LE to do things his way, just like Cindy. Then of course, Lee in the undercover video with Tony Lazarro was a terrible embarrassment, I’m sure, for him. What a sad family. I can only wish them peace and some happiness, someday….

      I totally agree that if they step back and allow themselves to see the truth (they know the truth, they just refuse to see it), then you’re right, they would find some closure and move on. As it stands now, if they don’t find some peace, they are looking at very long and very unhappy lives…

      Thank you again, Jon, for your excellent comments here! Andrea

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  30. Jon
    Mar 4 2010

    Thanks Andrea. It seems so obvious but I guess when ego is involved a whole different dynamic comes into play.

    For them to really own up to what’s happened will involve admitting their own shortcomings as parents and I doubt that will ever happen. As you said, they’re their own worst enemies.

    jon

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    • Andrea
      Mar 5 2010

      Hey Jon,

      You got that right, I am pretty certain Cindy is in total and absolute denial…and her ego is such that she must maintain the facade until the bitter end, because she’s perfect, and better than everyone else – smarter than everyone, too… She’s much smarter than LE, she’s sure of it. It’s a very sad picture of a family… God knows none of us would want to be anywhere near their shoes, much less be in them, but had they suffered in silence, they’d surely be in a better place right now…. In fact, if they took the opposite approach, I bet they’d have scores of people wanting to reach out and help them through this horrid affair…. not now, of course. I wonder if it’s too late? It probably is…. Ciindy seems to me like the grown up version of the “bad seed” character…. mean and nasty – and no one will come near for fear of getting pelted! Boy, can she be vile! yikes…

      Have a great weekend, Jon….

      Talk to you soon…

      Andrea

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  31. Jon
    Mar 10 2010

    HI. Totally agree about Cindy. From the beginning anyone could see that she’s a control freak. I just wonder about Lee’s girlfriend (although I don’t know if she’s still around or not) I think if she has any sense at all, she’ll opt out of this family before she has kids and Cindy tries to take over her life. You know she won’t change.

    Ha Ha. I just thought: she missed her calling; she could probably make big bucks as a dominatrix for wimps like George.

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    • Andrea
      Mar 12 2010

      Hey Jon,

      Oh yeah, total control freak.

      You know, I spent this entire week in a seminar – it’s a week long class that caps off the end of my Masters degree program, and we were talking about behaviors and control. And, I started thinking about Cindy, and what resonated with me was when the Professor was speaking to the class about how people mold perceptions into what ever beliefs help protect them.

      Then their beliefs, if not grounded in reality, or truth, or even substance, will go south from the common collective beliefs – or norm. With denial comes conflict which develops into open hostility.

      And, I thought about the Anthony’s and how they have gone from confused – to quick denial, to anger to picking sides, and finally to open hostility against anyone in their sight lines who refuse to believe what they believe.

      I honestly think the Anthony’s believed that they could change people’s thoughts….

      It’s really weird, I think they actually thought that LE and the general public would “buy” their lies wholesale.

      Anyway, I think they are just pretty sad people and can hope they find some peace one day….

      Andrea

      Reply
  32. weezie
    Mar 12 2010

    lona1; How verifiable is this information on George and Cindy having moved around the corner? How can we find out if this is actually true? If they have hired an attorney to fight losing Hopespring, wouldn’t you think that their residence would be on some kind of document?

    I am very curious about this. thanks

    Reply
    • Andrea
      Mar 12 2010

      Hi Weezie,

      I haven’t heard anything of them moving from their home. In fact, I just read an article in the Sentinel regarding how they are trying to fight like heck to keep the place as it’s the only home Caylee knew, and all her memories are there…. I am sure that the forclosure documents are part of the public records in the city of Orlando…

      let us know if you find anything out!

      Thanks,
      An drea

      Reply

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